Post by LDM on Jan 3, 2010 22:36:24 GMT -5
We received the following question:
Why do you feel Patricia King is a candidate for this subject of sorcery?
I am not personally familiar with Patricia King, so I visited her website to get an understanding of what she teaches. The info on her site and the perversion she promotes of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is completely appalling! After having taken a look at what she "ministers", I have no doubts why Patricia was cited as one of the sorcerers in the Priestcraft series.
Trying to Redeem the Filth of the World
The Scriptures are clear that believers in Jesus Christ are to stand for righteousness, but it is just as clear that God is not trying to redeem the systems of this world. This is why He calls us to be separate (sanctified). Much of what Patricia teaches seems to originate from this false "Kingdom Now" deception.
Redeeming the Entertainment Industry
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/prophecies/427-articles-2009-07-14-new-kingdom-entertainment-industry
Will movie theaters become the new churches?
God's Kingdom Invasion
www.xpmedia.com/article?artId=175
"God intends to invade the earth with His Kingdom. God is bringing the Kingdom of Heaven here and we, as born-again Believers, are His agents whom He intends to do it through." FALSE!! God's Kingdom is NOT of this world and He is calling His people out of the world into His Kingdom.
An Unshakable Kingdom
www.xpmedia.com/article?artId=124
"My lifelong goal and vision is to see the nations transformed and to watch God raise up Believers and Leaders in all the mountains of society to help influence the economic world, media, political world, and much more with the message of the Cross. This will help bring the restitution of all things before Christ returns." Again, false! Does Scripture say that Christians are to bring about the "restitution" of world systems to God before Christ returns or are we told that the systems of this world will align themselves against Jesus by His return?
Inciting Matriarchal Rebellion
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/prophecies/436-articles-2009-08-13-paulette-reed-a-time-to-build
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/events/xp-extreme-women
Is this the beginning of the "Year of the Woman" where God will empower "hundreds of women, highly favored, [to] trade positions in God’s army and be the head and not the tail"? Such is the case according to Patricia and this is what she promotes as part of her "Extreme Women" initiative. Woman is certainly not the tail, but she is also NOT the head. God says the head of the woman is the man. Is God a liar?
Oh Prophetic Woman!
www.xpmedia.com/article?artId=109
"God's women of all ages, races and cultures are emerging from the hidden places of obscurity to the frontlines of favor...Culture will not dictate to these powerful women of God, but they will be led forth by the Spirit of God as ambassadors of the Most High to do a special work in their own special way." Have women been "obscure" in God's Body up until now? Of course not. The language Patrica continues to promote on her site illustrates a call to move women from the ordained roles God has placed them in to a new role as the head of this "great new move" of God. God's order is then written off as merely "cultural" dictates which are holding back women's potential. This is a delusion and not supported by Scripture, but instead by the words of "prophecy" from those Patricia supports.
In Sync with Catholicism
Catholicism is filled with and born from idolatry. It has adopted as part of its organization practices that are nothing short of Babylonian mysticism.
The Sign of the Cross
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/ask-patricia
When being asked by a former Catholic whether it is okay to continue making the sign of the cross, Patricia claims that this is a practice God "adores" when done in faith. As a former Catholic myself, I was horrified to see such a response. Catholics consider this to be a method of "venerating this life-giving symbol and adopting it as an emblem." They claim such to be "The sign of Christ" and "The seal of the living God". They believe that it conveys a blessing from the Lord. Yet, we see no such support for these assertions in Scripture. In fact, the cross is always depicted as a symbol of death, not life in Scripture. It is unScriptural to claim that God just accepts anything we do as long as it is done in faith. Idolatry does not become acceptable to God just because we mean well.
Communication with the Dead
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/ask-patricia
When asked if she supports communication with the dead, what should have been an obvious, "No, such is forbidden by God." was instead a murky response which seems to justify such communications. As the basis for her comments, they reference the transfiguration when Jesus met and spoke with Moses & Elijah. She says specifically about this event, "Why would Jesus have interaction with those who were dead and allow his three disciples to listen in and participate in this event, if it was a sin?" This is deceptive! The transfiguration is not an example of men communicating with the dead. Neither Moses nor Elijah spoke to anyone but Jesus, who was God even while in the flesh. Neither was this ever set out as a pattern which should be emulated by man. Regardless of the condition of man after death, man is expressly forbidden by God in attempting to contact or communicate with the dead.
Endorsement of Homosexuality
In searching Patricia's site for her position on homosexuality, it may prove daunting to find these articles. The reason is that she does not use the term "homosexual" or even "gay", but has adopted the phrase "Same Sex Attractions (SSA)". Why does Patricia feel the need to water down and dilute references to this sin? Is she afraid to call it what God calls it, sodomy? While perhaps "politically correct" it is very far from being Biblically correct and I had to wonder about her motivations here...that is until I actually read what she was teaching in the matter. Then it became very clear.
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=314
Patricia has a former homosexual leading her homosexual outreach with seminars such as "Jesus Loves Homosexuals" and offering "Same-sex attraction support groups". Do I believe that God can deliver from homosexuality? Of course! However, given the personal history of the one leading this ministry and the message being communicated by the same, one has to wonder how Patricia defines "former". If a "former" homosexual is telling others that homosexuals do not have to forsake that sin, then has this man really been delivered? Once we have been cleansed from sin, we do not compromise God's word by telling others it is okay to stay in sin.
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/ask-patricia
In addressing homosexuals in ministry, Patricia simply says we are to "love" them and not "judge". This is not what Scriptures says is the proper response to homosexuality.
How to Win the Hearts of those with Same Sex Attraction
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/articles/101-article-2007-06-21-richard-cohen-same-sex-attraction
"Listen to the pain they had to endure. Listen to the years they wanted to share their heartaches with you, but were afraid of your rejection. Listen to how they may have sat in your church, synagogue, mosque and temple, hearing messages of hell, fire and damnation, how they were going to burn and die because of feelings they experienced through no fault of their own. Remember, no one chooses to have same-sex attractions; SSA is always the result of many contributing factors. Listen to the cries of their wounded hearts. Those who experience SSA need a safe home, crave your understanding, and most of all, need your unconditional love...Speaking about the need for “change,” or what the Bible says about SSA, will only separate you from this sensitive soul. If she or he grew up in a religious home, they already know what the “Word” says about SSA. You can be sure they have experienced enough judgment and self-condemnation to last a lifetime. Now, it is time to stand in the gap and create a safe place for them to share the many experiences they endured alone, for far too long...People of all religious faiths have cast too many stones without offering sincere words of apology. The time is now, the time has come for all men and women, of every faith, to apologize, listen, and embrace all men and women who experience SSA, whether they choose to change or not." This response is an abomination!!! According to Patricia's ministry, homosexuals cannot help being what they are; it is not their fault. I guess that makes God a merciless, loveless God to state that NO homosexuals will inherit the kingdom of God. Patricia says, we should not teach what the Scriptures say about homosexuality because it alienates us from them. Yet, the Bible says the word of God is the power to change us. What "minister" encourages people to put aside the word of God, and not only deny what it says, but APOLOGIZE for what God says about sin? Not a minister of righteousness.
New Age/Occult Indoctrination
Club Mysterio
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=314
"Through the vehicle of DJ led, electronic worship music, Caleb trains the body in how to become free in worship and praise and to express adoration for Jesus through flag, song, and dance. He also teaches how to cry out to God through prayer, intercession and travail using the whole body."
Look at an example of this "club" ministry: www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2i5k6WuwX4. Notice the strobe lights and off-beat syncopations used to alter one's mental balance. It is a known occult practice used in much of the music industry and club scene. Caleb (the head of this XP ministry) says, "The music as you are jumping and dancing and moving around...well the words we are speaking become one at a cellular level with your body." He is telling you the truth and this is called mesmerization!!! He is using the club environment to put you in a trance so that you will become susceptible to whatever he says. Read up on Franz Anton Mesmer and how his practices were used to hypnotize his followers.
Preoccupation with Angels
Many of Patrica's "visions" involve communications or what she calls "downloads" from angels. There are too many to post here, but simply peruse her site and her prophecies for more on this. But what is the role of angels for God's people? Who does the Scripture indicate is the primary source of inspiration and revelation since Jesus' resurrection? Is it not the Holy Spirit? Clearly angels are real and have assigned purposes by God as it relates to mankind, however we must also keep in mind that Scripture specifically warns us about satan being transformed into an angel of light. WHY does God warn us of this? When first looking into Todd Bentley I became quite alarmed to hear him say that his angelic spirit guide specifically told him that people must seek visitations from that angel. This is completely unScriptural and satanic, yet it seems to be the same philosophy that Patricia is supporting.
Angels visit in the Night
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/testimonies/108-testimonies-angels
Here is a "testimony" of angelic visitations on Halloween Night from "girl" angels. There are NO female angels depicted in Scripture. ALL angels in the Bible are mail. The ONLY examples of a female type angelic creature is connected with the curse of matriarchy described in Zechariah Chapter 5. It seems fitting that Patrica's followers would be receiving female angelic visitations in light of her promotion of open matriarchal rebellion against the things of God.
Questionable "Spiritual" Manifestations
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/ask-patricia
"Many times in meetings or in devotional times, signs and wonders will manifest such as gold dust, gemstones, diamond glitter, oil, feathers, manna and many other things. In the Bibles these would be referred to as signs and wonders (see Acts 2:17-19)." LIE!! Neither Acts 2:17-19 nor any other Scripture calls such things Godly signs and wonders. This is whatever, what Patricia would like us to believe. When pressed for what Godly purpose these "signs" offer, Patricia falsely compares such things to the parables Jesus spoke. Just as Jesus spoke in parables so that only those with eyes to see could understand, Patricia asserts that we have to have the same "faith" to understand these manifestations. Still, that does not answer the question of what "purpose" such "signs" serve? In conclusion, Patricia can only say that there is no one purpose or meaning to these manifestations and that one must simply see them as God's way of calling us into His presence to inquire what they mean. This is a long, convoluted way of saying that these signs serve NO purpose. Parables served a purpose as they helped to explain key principles about the Kingdom of God. However, according to Patricia, not even those with "spiritual eyes" can perceive the purpose of these signs. The one truth Patricia shares about these manifestations is, "It's all about the source!" She couldn't be more right here. This is the point in a nutshell. Who is the source behind these signs?
Birds of a Feather
Patricia has and continues to be a supporter of Todd Bentley. In fact - according to Patricia - it is the church's criticism of his violence, demonic manifestations, and Scriptural perversions which is to blame for his adulterous, carnal ways and his abuse of authority with his female staff member as well as others. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFJfSfpMEE
Notice as well that Todd Bentley used the same syncopated beats and lights to enduce a trance in his followers as Patricia uses in her Club Mysterio ministry.
I must say that - although I was not initially familiar with Patricia King, a review of her own website shows a completely unScriptural ministry who is engaging its followers in and promoting occult activity. This conversation is not a one-way street. If you take issue with what I have written here, I invite you to post a response. However, please be prepared to support your views with Scripture.
Why do you feel Patricia King is a candidate for this subject of sorcery?
I am not personally familiar with Patricia King, so I visited her website to get an understanding of what she teaches. The info on her site and the perversion she promotes of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is completely appalling! After having taken a look at what she "ministers", I have no doubts why Patricia was cited as one of the sorcerers in the Priestcraft series.
Trying to Redeem the Filth of the World
The Scriptures are clear that believers in Jesus Christ are to stand for righteousness, but it is just as clear that God is not trying to redeem the systems of this world. This is why He calls us to be separate (sanctified). Much of what Patricia teaches seems to originate from this false "Kingdom Now" deception.
Redeeming the Entertainment Industry
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/prophecies/427-articles-2009-07-14-new-kingdom-entertainment-industry
Will movie theaters become the new churches?
God's Kingdom Invasion
www.xpmedia.com/article?artId=175
"God intends to invade the earth with His Kingdom. God is bringing the Kingdom of Heaven here and we, as born-again Believers, are His agents whom He intends to do it through." FALSE!! God's Kingdom is NOT of this world and He is calling His people out of the world into His Kingdom.
An Unshakable Kingdom
www.xpmedia.com/article?artId=124
"My lifelong goal and vision is to see the nations transformed and to watch God raise up Believers and Leaders in all the mountains of society to help influence the economic world, media, political world, and much more with the message of the Cross. This will help bring the restitution of all things before Christ returns." Again, false! Does Scripture say that Christians are to bring about the "restitution" of world systems to God before Christ returns or are we told that the systems of this world will align themselves against Jesus by His return?
Inciting Matriarchal Rebellion
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/prophecies/436-articles-2009-08-13-paulette-reed-a-time-to-build
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/events/xp-extreme-women
Is this the beginning of the "Year of the Woman" where God will empower "hundreds of women, highly favored, [to] trade positions in God’s army and be the head and not the tail"? Such is the case according to Patricia and this is what she promotes as part of her "Extreme Women" initiative. Woman is certainly not the tail, but she is also NOT the head. God says the head of the woman is the man. Is God a liar?
Oh Prophetic Woman!
www.xpmedia.com/article?artId=109
"God's women of all ages, races and cultures are emerging from the hidden places of obscurity to the frontlines of favor...Culture will not dictate to these powerful women of God, but they will be led forth by the Spirit of God as ambassadors of the Most High to do a special work in their own special way." Have women been "obscure" in God's Body up until now? Of course not. The language Patrica continues to promote on her site illustrates a call to move women from the ordained roles God has placed them in to a new role as the head of this "great new move" of God. God's order is then written off as merely "cultural" dictates which are holding back women's potential. This is a delusion and not supported by Scripture, but instead by the words of "prophecy" from those Patricia supports.
In Sync with Catholicism
Catholicism is filled with and born from idolatry. It has adopted as part of its organization practices that are nothing short of Babylonian mysticism.
The Sign of the Cross
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/ask-patricia
When being asked by a former Catholic whether it is okay to continue making the sign of the cross, Patricia claims that this is a practice God "adores" when done in faith. As a former Catholic myself, I was horrified to see such a response. Catholics consider this to be a method of "venerating this life-giving symbol and adopting it as an emblem." They claim such to be "The sign of Christ" and "The seal of the living God". They believe that it conveys a blessing from the Lord. Yet, we see no such support for these assertions in Scripture. In fact, the cross is always depicted as a symbol of death, not life in Scripture. It is unScriptural to claim that God just accepts anything we do as long as it is done in faith. Idolatry does not become acceptable to God just because we mean well.
Communication with the Dead
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/ask-patricia
When asked if she supports communication with the dead, what should have been an obvious, "No, such is forbidden by God." was instead a murky response which seems to justify such communications. As the basis for her comments, they reference the transfiguration when Jesus met and spoke with Moses & Elijah. She says specifically about this event, "Why would Jesus have interaction with those who were dead and allow his three disciples to listen in and participate in this event, if it was a sin?" This is deceptive! The transfiguration is not an example of men communicating with the dead. Neither Moses nor Elijah spoke to anyone but Jesus, who was God even while in the flesh. Neither was this ever set out as a pattern which should be emulated by man. Regardless of the condition of man after death, man is expressly forbidden by God in attempting to contact or communicate with the dead.
Endorsement of Homosexuality
In searching Patricia's site for her position on homosexuality, it may prove daunting to find these articles. The reason is that she does not use the term "homosexual" or even "gay", but has adopted the phrase "Same Sex Attractions (SSA)". Why does Patricia feel the need to water down and dilute references to this sin? Is she afraid to call it what God calls it, sodomy? While perhaps "politically correct" it is very far from being Biblically correct and I had to wonder about her motivations here...that is until I actually read what she was teaching in the matter. Then it became very clear.
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=314
Patricia has a former homosexual leading her homosexual outreach with seminars such as "Jesus Loves Homosexuals" and offering "Same-sex attraction support groups". Do I believe that God can deliver from homosexuality? Of course! However, given the personal history of the one leading this ministry and the message being communicated by the same, one has to wonder how Patricia defines "former". If a "former" homosexual is telling others that homosexuals do not have to forsake that sin, then has this man really been delivered? Once we have been cleansed from sin, we do not compromise God's word by telling others it is okay to stay in sin.
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/ask-patricia
In addressing homosexuals in ministry, Patricia simply says we are to "love" them and not "judge". This is not what Scriptures says is the proper response to homosexuality.
How to Win the Hearts of those with Same Sex Attraction
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/articles/101-article-2007-06-21-richard-cohen-same-sex-attraction
"Listen to the pain they had to endure. Listen to the years they wanted to share their heartaches with you, but were afraid of your rejection. Listen to how they may have sat in your church, synagogue, mosque and temple, hearing messages of hell, fire and damnation, how they were going to burn and die because of feelings they experienced through no fault of their own. Remember, no one chooses to have same-sex attractions; SSA is always the result of many contributing factors. Listen to the cries of their wounded hearts. Those who experience SSA need a safe home, crave your understanding, and most of all, need your unconditional love...Speaking about the need for “change,” or what the Bible says about SSA, will only separate you from this sensitive soul. If she or he grew up in a religious home, they already know what the “Word” says about SSA. You can be sure they have experienced enough judgment and self-condemnation to last a lifetime. Now, it is time to stand in the gap and create a safe place for them to share the many experiences they endured alone, for far too long...People of all religious faiths have cast too many stones without offering sincere words of apology. The time is now, the time has come for all men and women, of every faith, to apologize, listen, and embrace all men and women who experience SSA, whether they choose to change or not." This response is an abomination!!! According to Patricia's ministry, homosexuals cannot help being what they are; it is not their fault. I guess that makes God a merciless, loveless God to state that NO homosexuals will inherit the kingdom of God. Patricia says, we should not teach what the Scriptures say about homosexuality because it alienates us from them. Yet, the Bible says the word of God is the power to change us. What "minister" encourages people to put aside the word of God, and not only deny what it says, but APOLOGIZE for what God says about sin? Not a minister of righteousness.
New Age/Occult Indoctrination
Club Mysterio
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=314
"Through the vehicle of DJ led, electronic worship music, Caleb trains the body in how to become free in worship and praise and to express adoration for Jesus through flag, song, and dance. He also teaches how to cry out to God through prayer, intercession and travail using the whole body."
Look at an example of this "club" ministry: www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2i5k6WuwX4. Notice the strobe lights and off-beat syncopations used to alter one's mental balance. It is a known occult practice used in much of the music industry and club scene. Caleb (the head of this XP ministry) says, "The music as you are jumping and dancing and moving around...well the words we are speaking become one at a cellular level with your body." He is telling you the truth and this is called mesmerization!!! He is using the club environment to put you in a trance so that you will become susceptible to whatever he says. Read up on Franz Anton Mesmer and how his practices were used to hypnotize his followers.
Preoccupation with Angels
Many of Patrica's "visions" involve communications or what she calls "downloads" from angels. There are too many to post here, but simply peruse her site and her prophecies for more on this. But what is the role of angels for God's people? Who does the Scripture indicate is the primary source of inspiration and revelation since Jesus' resurrection? Is it not the Holy Spirit? Clearly angels are real and have assigned purposes by God as it relates to mankind, however we must also keep in mind that Scripture specifically warns us about satan being transformed into an angel of light. WHY does God warn us of this? When first looking into Todd Bentley I became quite alarmed to hear him say that his angelic spirit guide specifically told him that people must seek visitations from that angel. This is completely unScriptural and satanic, yet it seems to be the same philosophy that Patricia is supporting.
Angels visit in the Night
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/testimonies/108-testimonies-angels
Here is a "testimony" of angelic visitations on Halloween Night from "girl" angels. There are NO female angels depicted in Scripture. ALL angels in the Bible are mail. The ONLY examples of a female type angelic creature is connected with the curse of matriarchy described in Zechariah Chapter 5. It seems fitting that Patrica's followers would be receiving female angelic visitations in light of her promotion of open matriarchal rebellion against the things of God.
Questionable "Spiritual" Manifestations
www.extremeprophetic.com/index.php/study-prayer/study/ask-patricia
"Many times in meetings or in devotional times, signs and wonders will manifest such as gold dust, gemstones, diamond glitter, oil, feathers, manna and many other things. In the Bibles these would be referred to as signs and wonders (see Acts 2:17-19)." LIE!! Neither Acts 2:17-19 nor any other Scripture calls such things Godly signs and wonders. This is whatever, what Patricia would like us to believe. When pressed for what Godly purpose these "signs" offer, Patricia falsely compares such things to the parables Jesus spoke. Just as Jesus spoke in parables so that only those with eyes to see could understand, Patricia asserts that we have to have the same "faith" to understand these manifestations. Still, that does not answer the question of what "purpose" such "signs" serve? In conclusion, Patricia can only say that there is no one purpose or meaning to these manifestations and that one must simply see them as God's way of calling us into His presence to inquire what they mean. This is a long, convoluted way of saying that these signs serve NO purpose. Parables served a purpose as they helped to explain key principles about the Kingdom of God. However, according to Patricia, not even those with "spiritual eyes" can perceive the purpose of these signs. The one truth Patricia shares about these manifestations is, "It's all about the source!" She couldn't be more right here. This is the point in a nutshell. Who is the source behind these signs?
Birds of a Feather
Patricia has and continues to be a supporter of Todd Bentley. In fact - according to Patricia - it is the church's criticism of his violence, demonic manifestations, and Scriptural perversions which is to blame for his adulterous, carnal ways and his abuse of authority with his female staff member as well as others. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFJfSfpMEE
Notice as well that Todd Bentley used the same syncopated beats and lights to enduce a trance in his followers as Patricia uses in her Club Mysterio ministry.
I must say that - although I was not initially familiar with Patricia King, a review of her own website shows a completely unScriptural ministry who is engaging its followers in and promoting occult activity. This conversation is not a one-way street. If you take issue with what I have written here, I invite you to post a response. However, please be prepared to support your views with Scripture.