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Post by LDM on Mar 15, 2010 19:30:39 GMT -5
I hear people say all the time "Love the sinner and hate the sin." The bible tells us that we should love our neighbors as ourselves. (Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 19:19, )Matthew 5:43-48, Matthew 22:39, Mark 12:31, James 2:8, Galatians 5:14, Romans 13:9, and Luke 10:27) Do you think this saying is correct? I do, but not to the extent that I love them without correction from the word of GOD; hopefully turn them to repentance so that the LORD may prick there spirit and they be saved. Well, I think anything Scripture says is correct. If you love someone, you will tell the truth and provide Godly correction. The thing though is that it must be done in love. By that I mean that you must be following God's Spirit in what to say and how to say it. With those who need a firm word, that is what God will send through you. For those who need a comforting word, that is what God will send. Speaking in love is nothing more than speaking as God inspires you to speak, because He is love. It is only when people try to rush off in "correction" in their own might that such becomes carnal and unGodly. That is just self-righteousness, and even sinners can tell the difference with that. Also, do you think it's possible for two men or two women to like one another in a formal attraction without the "burning" lust and or passion or lying together in a way in which a man and woman should lie? No, I don't think such is Godly. I cannot imagine any attraction two women or two men would have that would be Godly. Even the bond that the brethren and sisters share in Christ is not because there is any attraction between the persons, but the attraction is to Christ. It is Christ in others that unite the Body and gets all on one accord. Any type of same-sex attraction - even platonic ones - are unnatural. Attraction 1. the act, power, or property of attracting. 2. attractive quality; magnetic charm; fascination; allurement; enticement. 3. a person or thing that draws, attracts, allures, or entices. 4. a characteristic or quality that provides pleasure; attractive feature. 5. Physics. the electric or magnetic force that acts between oppositely charged bodies, tending to draw them together. I am assuming of course that you are not referencing natural family relations.
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Post by estes on Mar 16, 2010 5:08:17 GMT -5
I hear people say all the time "Love the sinner and hate the sin." The bible tells us that we should love our neighbors as ourselves. (Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 19:19, )Matthew 5:43-48, Matthew 22:39, Mark 12:31, James 2:8, Galatians 5:14, Romans 13:9, and Luke 10:27) Do you think this saying is correct? I do, but not to the extent that I love them without correction from the word of GOD; hopefully turn them to repentance so that the LORD may prick there spirit and they be saved. Well, I think anything Scripture says is correct. If you love someone, you will tell the truth and provide Godly correction. The thing though is that it must be done in love. By that I mean that you must be following God's Spirit in what to say and how to say it. With those who need a firm word, that is what God will send through you. For those who need a comforting word, that is what God will send. Speaking in love is nothing more than speaking as God inspires you to speak, because He is love. It is only when people try to rush off in "correction" in their own might that such becomes carnal and unGodly. That is just self-righteousness, and even sinners can tell the difference with that. Also, do you think it's possible for two men or two women to like one another in a formal attraction without the "burning" lust and or passion or lying together in a way in which a man and woman should lie? No, I don't think such is Godly. I cannot imagine any attraction two women or two men would have that would be Godly. Even the bond that the brethren and sisters share in Christ is not because there is any attraction between the persons, but the attraction is to Christ. It is Christ in others that unite the Body and gets all on one accord. Any type of same-sex attraction - even platonic ones - are unnatural. Attraction 1. the act, power, or property of attracting. 2. attractive quality; magnetic charm; fascination; allurement; enticement. 3. a person or thing that draws, attracts, allures, or entices. 4. a characteristic or quality that provides pleasure; attractive feature. 5. Physics. the electric or magnetic force that acts between oppositely charged bodies, tending to draw them together. I am assuming of course that you are not referencing natural family relations. I think your absolutely right when it comes to doing things in love. I know when I wasn't saved, I fell right into the category of what you said. I was trying "to rush off in "correction"; in [my] own might that such [became] carnal and unGodly." But I do believe that when I talk to people now it's always through love and from God through me. As for the second part. Thanks for shining light on that situation. You broke it down in a way that I was able to see something that I've always looked at one way, differently. And no, I was not referencing natural family relationships. lol. I do understand where you are coming from now with that. When I was lost, my views of attraction where anything but of what GOD wanted it to be, but now that he is in my life and my #1 love, He has changed my attraction from the world and turned it to him. That's why I believe I'm so satisfied and content now just being with Him and Him alone. I'm not attracted to anything else. With that being said, GOD's process with me is still in progress. I can see the changes he is continually making in me, from day, to day, to day.
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